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                                                  May    19, 2020
                                                  June    2, 2020

"The Planet of the Humans" is a                  [link]
documentary from 2019: it's a
criticism of "renewable energy"         Written, co-produced, and directed by
from a left-wing point-of-view.         Jeff Gibbs, but most attention is
                                        focused on the "executive producer":
                                        Michael Moore.

                                             In the post-Covid world, it
                                             was released straight to
Their general angle: too many people         youtube, but-- after a call
using too many resources, industrial         to have it banned for
civilization is bad, and "renewables"        challenging the party
are just more industrialism.                 line-- it actually was
                                             taken down by a complaint
  This is a rather                           from one person that they'd
  old-fashioned line                         used a small amount of
  (even by my standards)...                  material without permission.
                                             (Uh... "fair use"?)  There
                    You'll still             were calls for google to
  I'm what you      find an occasional       expedite the usual process
  might call a      voice on the internet    of examining DMCA
  "renewables       that's proud of          challenges, and the
  skeptic" and I    themselves for           documentary has since been
  really wanted     calling out the          restored...
  to like this      forgotten devil of
  movie, but...     *overpopulation*...                       The spectacle of
                                                              the illiberal
                    The current thinking these                left calling for
                    days (e.g. see Hans Rosling's             an opposing voice
                    talks) is that the population             to be banned was
                    bomb was a bust, and that the             not pretty.
                    world population is going to
                    peak at around 10 billion,
                    which could be a challenge to
                    support, but not undoable.


                             ANARCHIC_ROBINSON


Because the filmmakers think that
industrial civilization itself is       
the great devil (formerly known as   I'm not even going to complain much about   
"the capitalist system", or simply   them ignoring nuclear power.  At least its
"technology") they can't really      *mentioned* twice, though once as a sneer.    
talk to someone with a different                                               
point-of-view very easily.           General Electric makes nuclear power
                                     plants as well as windmills, so via
E.g. if you want to convince         guilt-by-association we can conclude
me that a particular                 windmills must be evil.  (Why wouldn't
technology is a bad idea you         you conclude it's a good thing that GE
can't just show me it's got          is being less evil?)
some problems or that it's    
been over-hyped-- you need to           Myself, I would suggest that GE is
talk to me about the                    largely an amoral entity, and if you
*magnitude* of the problems,            want it to make money doing positive
you've got to at least make a           things, you need to set-up appropriate
stab at showing me the costs            incentives via legal constraints and
outweigh the benefits                   economic industrial policy.  And that
                                        means our government needs some way of
Their arguments often have an           making intelligent judgments about
innumerate feel to them, despite        which technical developments are good,
an occasional chart and graph.          and that's where the fun really begins.
They often start out making what
might be an interesting point, but
they never seem to be able follow
the logic of it to a conclusion.

  Yes, solar power is not magic, it
  requires manufacturing, distribution
  and installation, all of which might    Solar power enthusiasts, of course,
  have some environmental impact; and     insist that they've got all this
  the devices will indeed break and       covered, but doing an independent
  wear-out, requiring some repair and     check on their claims would be really
  replacement; and yes, they really do    valuable.  The film-makers here don't
  have a problem with intermittency       seem to have heard anything the solar
  and whatever you do to cover for        advocates have said in recent years.
  that might raise costs and have it's
  own environmental impact.                  Instead, they fall back on
                                             reducto ad technology: it's
     Resolving these questions are the       just another *industrial*
     domain of technical studies-- it        process!  It's not *perfect*!
     would be a bit much to expect a
     documentary film to do the job,           The question of whether it might
     but it *is* their job to report           be *better* isn't often raised.
     on the conclusions of what
     studies exist and they don't even            Usually they act like
     mention anything like this.                  that's an impossiblity
                                                  because-- handwave.  Or
                                                  a claim supported by
  Consider their extended criticism of            nothing but a handwave.
  "biomass" (which is to say, growing stuff
  and burning it).  They raise a number of         There's an extended sequence
  points-- what exactly is being burned in         where they try to argue the
  these plants, is it what was promised?           greens have been co-opted by
                                                   big money.
  One woman accuses a local "biomass" plant
  or being a trash incinerator in disguise,           If you wanted to defend
  built with government subsidy as "green             the greens, you'd just
  energy".  I wouldn't know if that                   argue this the other
  was actually the case, but I'm afraid it            way: this is a pragmatic
  sounds all-too-plausible.                           use of existing power
                                                      structures to get
  The film-makers sneer at the idea that              important work done.
  biomass might be "carbon neutral" and ask           
  where anyone could get that idea-- myself,          
  I got it from the policy recommendations            
  of the fifth IPCC report, and it's pretty           
  clear it *could* be carbon neutral if it            
  was burning crops raised for that purpose.          
                                                      
  On the other hand, it's understood that             
  burning "old growth" that isn't replaced            
  every year would be releasing carbon, and           
  not at all neutral.                                 
                                                      
  Here the film-makers act as though a                
  stack of tree trunks outside of a                   
  power plant is a "smoking gun", the                 
  one thing you need to know is that       One of the film's experts:
  they're-- burning *trees*!  But, the                
  tree trunks we see there look pretty     "'... environmental groups have
  skinny, and they look very uniform.      been ... touting facilities like
  My thought would be they were farmed     this saying that ...  it's
  trees, some sort of fast growing         *carbon neutral*, that ...  there
  pine, perhaps...  What *I* would         are no CO2 emissions -- it
  worry about is what kind of land is      actually emits over 400 tons per
  being used to grow this stuff, and       year of carbon dioxide --"
  is this "green energy" competing                    
  with crops for land use?                   The idea of carbon neutrality is
                                             not that there are *no* emissions
                                             at the plant, but rather they're
                                             balanced by the carbon locked up
                                             by growing the fuel.
                                                      
                                           "'Oh, but once we cut 'em they'll
                                           *grow back*'-- they'll grow back
                                           over a period of decades to
                                           centuries ... "
                                                      
                                             If you can't grow every year
                                             what you burn every year,
                                             that would be a problem,
                                             but it's inconceivable that
                                             the IPCC could've missed
                                             that point.
                                                      
                                           "but if we cut every tree in the
                                           United States that would be enough
                                           to power the country for a year and
                                           then what happens, those trees are
                                           gone!"  (55:47)
                                                      
                                              And again: the IPCC simply
                                              missed this?


       There are some nice bits of documentary
       film maneuvers here which do a fair job       The question though is
       of dramatizing some of their points:          whether these stand up
                                                     to scrutiny or are they
       They're skulking around outside a biomass     just gotcha cheap shots.
       plant and are accosted by a plant foreman
       dude who starts waving cops at them--
       that's great for establishing a "what are
       they trying to hide?!" vibe, and they win
       over our sympathy in the smooth way they
       avoid taking the bait and treat the
       foreman's orders as invitations and
       politely decline.

       They travel out to the desert and begin by
       interviewing a local about one of the first
       large solar power installations, then they
       head over to the plant and are shocked (or
       perhaps *shocked, shocked!*) to see the
       photovoltaics have been removed completely and
       in their place there's an open field of
       drifting sand, which they label a "solar dead
       zone".  From there they cut back to Ivanpah (a
       big solar thermal tower from some years back)
       and take note of the breakage there...

           As you might expect, the solar power fans
           complain that these are just problems with
           the early "first generation" technology
           and the newer stuff is better.

              Fair enough, but what I would've done
              with this material is to quote solar
              power propaganda from ten years ago, and
              make the point that these plants didn't
              live up to their billing very well.

              The question then is should we beleive
              the claims of present day solar and
              wind advocates about the potential for
              the current technology?


        This looks like one of the better,
        factually-based criticisms of this
        documentary (there are many that are
        far worse):

            [link]

            However, they remark:

            "For example, the film claims that 'some solar
            panels' last only 10 years, but today’s solar
            panels are built to last 20 to 30 years."

                But we haven't actually seen them last
                this long yet. In what other field would
                someone uncritically recite manufacturer
                claims as though they're fact?





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