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ANARCHIC_ROBINSON


                                             March 14, 2010

  The Kim Stanley Robinson
  talk at The Anarchist Bookfair,
  March 13, 2010

       Robinson's central point is that
       Science itself is a functioning      THE_SCIENCE_CONSPIRACY
       anarchy of a sort.

       An example of utopian ideals of
       cooperative exchange, openness
       and transparency.

       Scientists are characterized
       by very little interest in material
       gain: the difference between the       I wonder if he's taken into
       post-doc and the tenured prof is       account consulting fees.
       only a factor of 4 in income.          Professors in technical fields
                                              have access to a number of
                                              sources of income outside of
                                              salary.

Kim Stanley Robinson did an
excellent job with this
talk... and he was absolutely
brilliant compared to some of          ANARCHIST_BOOK_FAIR
the other speakers.

He wanted to argue that the left had
unfairly villified Science; he was making         He also makes a distinction
the point that the scientific world has a         between capitalism and
very egalitarian, anti-materialistic culture      capital, which is an
                                                  interesting move.
   In the Q&A period he made the very
   gutsy move of defending genetically               He uses a
   modified food (making the point that              definition of
   it wasn't fundamentally different                 "capital" he
   from traditional hybridisation).                  attributes to
                                                     Marx: the surplus
He suggested trying to disentangle                   value of work.
the power games of capitalism
(e.g. patenting life forms) with                         (Oddly enough there
the goals of biological science and                      are lefties who
technology                                               don't believe that
                                                         wealth *can* be
   Supporting human life with                            created, which not
   less environmental impact.                            even Marx would've
                                                         agreed with.)
      Someone in the audience
      suggested that this wasn't
      such a great thing...

      Robinson's response was                 My response would be: if there
      that the one thing that                 are too many human beings and
      needed to happen to solve               we need massive dieback, try to
      the over-population problem             imagine that dieback happening
      was an increase in "social              in this room instead of off in
      justice" for every woman on             Africa somewhere.
      the planet.
                                              I would bring up the Dave
          (And that was an                    Foreman/Murray Bookchin
          applause line that                  controversy, and suggest
          completely won over                 that if you think it through
          the crowd.)                         a little, you'll probably
                                              want to back off from that
      He went on to make the point            position, just as Dave
      that there's a "positive                Foreman did.
      feedback" loop here,
      i.e. there are two things                    (I guess that
      that we want "improved                       would've at least
      living standards" and "lower                 had the virtue of
      population growth" and doing                 showing some
      one helps do the other.                      familarity with the
                                                   anarchist lit.)

         Other borrowed phrases                    WHAT_ARE_THEY_TO_ME
         he used...

             "The vanity of small
             differences." --Freud
                                     CIRCULAR_FIRING_SQUAD

             "The cruel desert
              religions."

                  Who was that from?




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