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CARNEGIE


                                             April 2, 2009

  Dale Carnegie,
  "How to Win Friends and
  Influence People" (1936)

  A book from which we can learn much.

  First of all, we might look at p.56,
  "Nine Suggestions on How to Get
   the Most Out of This Book"
                                                         His intonation is
  Look at the tone of absolute certainty                 strikingly similar
  with which he puts over the idea that this             to Heinlein:
  is *the* book, the one and only --
                                                     "Do you know someone you
  There are no nods toward modesty,                  would like to change and
  no ritual caveats like "this book                  regulate and improve?
  is not for everyone"...                            Good! That is fine. I am
                                                     all in favor of it. But
     If you have any problems applying anything      why not begin on
     in this book, the thing to do is re-read        yourself? From a purely
     that chapter, and study your own behavior       selfish standpoint, that
     to figure out what you're doing wrong.          is a lot more profitable
                                                     than trying to improve
                                                     others-- yes, and a lot
                                                     less dangerous." -- p.27

                                                         They were of the
                                                         same generation.
                                                         Maybe it was a
                                                         direct influence?

                                                            (Or perhaps more
  In the chapter "Six Ways to                               likely, they share
  Make People Like You", he                                 an influence:
  proposes that you need to                                 Mark Twain.)
  be sincerely interested in      One of the Seven
  other people before they'll     Habits of Highly
  even think about you.           Successful Self-Help
                                  Gurus: Number
    He doesn't even mention       Thy Principles.
    the wide range of "hard
    to get" strategies out
    there.

    Why should they care about
    you if you don't care about
    them?  Well, maybe they'll           He begins with anecdotes about
    want to join your club once          his boyhood dog -- and therein
    they find out they can't be          perhaps lies the difficulty.
    a member.
                                                Cat owners understand
                                                perversity better than
                                                dog people.


                                              Dangerbaby suggests that
                                              Carnegie's observations may
                                              be correct, but that when
                                              people try to fake the
                                              behavior he recommends you
                                              get the legendary "insurance
                                              salesman" effect that
                                              everyone dreads.

                                                 So it could be that
                                                 on some level you need
                                                 to be "a natural", and
                                                 studying works like this
                                                 just won't get you that
                                                 far.

                                                    The way I would put it:

                                                    You need to work
                                                    with what you are.

                                                    "You use what you've got,
                                                    and what you haven't
                                                    got, where's the mystery?"

                                                       Use your defects.


                                                       Trying to teach a
                                                       critical, reservered
                                                       person the trick of
                                                       wagging your tail and
                                                       slobbering happily is
                                                       not exactly "dangerous",
                                                       but it's pushing it.




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