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                                             July    24, 2021
                                             August  03, 2021
                                             December 4, 2021
There's some good material up at                                   
the mighty Stanford Encyclopedia    It works with some of the same       
of Philosophy on Peirce's ideas     quotes of Pierce that John Dewey     
about "truth":                      and Bertrand Russell use...          
                                                                         
                                                And I guess I was puzzling      
                                                over them ten years ago:  
                                                             
                                                PEIRCE_REALITY

Charles Sanders Peirce...

"...  is generally recognized for first proposing a
'pragmatic' theory of truth. Peirce's pragmatic          https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truth-pragmatic/
theory of truth is a byproduct of his pragmatic
theory of meaning. In a frequently-quoted passage in    C.S. Pierce is often
'How to Make Our Ideas Clear' (1878), Peirce writes     regarded as the
that, in order to pin down the meaning of a concept,    founding member of
we must:                                                pragmatism.  As is
                                                        typical of founders,
    'Consider what effects, which might                 he didn't like what
    conceivably have practical bearings, we             anyone else was doing
    conceive the object of our conception to            with it, and thought
    have. Then, our conception of these                 about changing the
    effects is the whole of our conception of           name for his philosophy
    the object.' (1878 [1986: 266])                     to 'pragmaticalism'.

"The meaning of the concept of 'truth'
then boils down to the 'practical
bearings' of using this term: that is,
of describing a belief as true. What,
then, is the practical difference of      Perhaps: "Why does this matter?
calling it 'true'?                        Is there any reason we should care?"


Peirce asserted that true beliefs
eventually gain general acceptance by
withstanding future inquiry. And
inquiry, for Peirce, is the process        This gets very close
that takes us from a state of doubt        to circularity:
to a state of stable belief.
                                           Truth is what we converge on
Peirce from 1878, which the SEP            by inquiry, inquiry is what
calls "the pragmatic meaning of            gets us to the truth.
truth":
                                           There's an out there, though: really
  "'All the followers of science           the claim is inquiry gets us to
  are fully persuaded that the             *stability*, so once we achieve
  processes of investigation, if           stability, we will call that truth.
  only pushed far enough, will give
  one certain solution to every                  A number of objections come
  question to which they can be                  up immediately-- the kind of
  applied. ... The opinion which is              points that Bertrand Russell
  fated to be ultimately agreed to               raised:
  by all who investigate, is what
  we mean by the truth.'"                               There's a commonly
                                                        observed phenomena of
   That's really classic                                "persistant myths",
   Peirce: he's doing an        PEIRCE_THE_MAN          ideas that stick in
   analogy to the concept of                            people's minds without
   "taking a limit" that's at                           good reason.
   the core of conventional
   formulations of                                      There are many
   calculus... or perhaps                               religious beliefs that
   he's reaching for a                                  remain stable for     
   generalization of it.                                centuries, despite
                                                        seeming patently
         INFINITE_WILDBERGER                            ridculous to people who
                                                        aren't members of that
                                                        religion.

                                                        And that gets us to
                                                        another set of issues:
Peirce evidently worried about the                      "inquiry" isn't just
supernatural connotations of the word                   something an individual
'fate' (this was the 1800s after all).                  does on their own, it's
                                                        a social process--
Further from the SEP:                                   that's certainly so in
                                                        the case of "scientific
"Peirce realized that his reference to                  inquiry".
'fate' could be easily misinterpreted. In
a less-frequently quoted footnote to this               It would seem that
passage he writes that 'fate' is not meant              there are different
in a 'superstitious' sense but rather as                sub-cultures that
'that which is sure to come true, and can               converge on different
nohow be avoided' (1878 [1986: 273]). Over              stabilties...
time Peirce moderated his position,
referring less to fate and unanimous                    Or at least
agreement and more to scientific                        meta-stabilities.
investigation and general consensus (Misak
2004). The result is an account that views
truth as what would be the result of                   Pierce seems to be
scientific inquiry, if scientific inquiry              referring to a strangely
were allowed to go on indefinitely. In                 idealized condition, a
1901 Peirce writes that:"                              hypothetical state in
                                                       which all this pragmatic
    'Truth is that concordance of                      inquiry has had a chance
    an abstract statement with the                     to proceed for a long,
    ideal limit towards which                          perhaps infinitely long
    endless investigation would                        amount of time.       
    tend to bring scientific                                
    belief.'  (1901a [1935 5.565])                        Interestingly, he   
                                                          understands we may 
         This is a fine example, I                        never get there, 
         think, of Pierce's tendency                      but he doesn't care:
         to constantly re-write, to                           
         try to achieve greater                               PEIRCE_REALITY
         clarity and to push the
         ideas a little further.

         One might point out
         that Pierce's ideas on
         how "stability ==           But then, maybe they
         truth" were not in          *were* converging on
         themselves stable.          a particular line...


     I don't *think* that this is
     just a reflexive ironic           There's no particular
     cheap-shot: Ideas about truth     requirement that it needs
     may themselves be regarded as     to be the *same* standard.
     true or false, and
     pragmatically it would seem
     they also need to be held to
     some "pragmatic" standard.



 Consider that the modern ("post-Kuhn")
 understanding of scientific progress
 allows for the possibility that at any        But it doesn't seem that Peirce
 moment there may be another "revolution".     is allowing for an open-ended
                                               process, a renewal of inquiry--
         Stability is a relative thing:
         what looks stable may turn out
         to be meta-stable...


"Consequently, truth does not depend
on actual unanimity or an actual end
to inquiry:

    'If Truth consists in
    satisfaction, it cannot be
    any actual satisfaction, but    So knowing whether your truth
    must be the satisfaction        really is true is effectively
    which would ultimately be       impossible, you're essentially
    found if the inquiry were       making a guess as to where it's all
    pushed to its ultimate and      going to end up-- (or *would* end
    indefeasible issue.'  (1908     up if it *could* end up.).
    [1935: 6.485], emphasis in
    original) " ..((CHECK TODO))        That kind of uncertainty is not at
                                        all an unusual feature of the modern
                                        world--
"As these references to inquiry and
investigation make clear, Peirce's      But this does, I think, raise a
concern is with how we come to have     question as to whether this particular
and hold the opinions we do."           metaphysic is necessarily better than
                                        the old one-to-one correspondence of
                                        ideas and reality.

"Some beliefs may in fact be very
durable but would not stand up to
inquiry and investigation (this is true
of many cognitive biases, such as the      Actually, this does not
Dunning-Kruger effect where people         seem all that clear, at
remain blissfully unaware of their own     least not to me.
incompetence). For Peirce, a true belief
is not simply one we will hold onto            Could it be that the author
obstinately.  Rather, a true belief is         here is starting to put words
one that has and will continue to hold         in Peirce's mouth to defend
up to sustained inquiry. In the                him from modern attacks?
practical terms Peirce prefers, this
means that to have a true belief is to             Or it could be I'm missing
have a belief that is dependable in the            the obvious because Dewey
face of all future challenges."                    missed it, and I've been
                                                   infected by his blindspots.

" ...  Peirce is skeptical that the correspondence
theory of truth-- roughly, the idea that true
beliefs correspond to reality-- has much useful to
say about the concept of truth. The problem with the
correspondence theory of truth, he argues, is that
it is only 'nominally' correct and hence 'useless'
(1906 [1998: 379, 380]) as far as describing truth's
practical value. In particular, the correspondence
theory of truth sheds no light on what makes true
beliefs valuable, the role of truth in the process
of inquiry, or how best to go about discovering and
defending true beliefs."

   This embrace of a flexible notion of truth
   as something that has to be useful for
   present purposes always feels like an          The idea that true
   abdication, a lawyer's notion of truth.        scientists never study
                                                  something without having a
                                                  pragmatic reason to care
"For Peirce, the importance of truth rests        about it seems very
not on a 'transcendental' (1901a [1935:           peculiar.
5.572]) connection between beliefs on the
one hand and reality on the other, but              The ornithologist might try
rather on the practical connection between          to determine the diet of the
doubt and belief, and the processes of              Hoot Owl without having any
inquiry that take us from the former to the         pressing concern riding on
latter:"                                            the result.

   'If by truth and falsity you mean something
   not definable in terms of doubt and belief
   in any way, then you are talking of
   entities of whose existence you can know          Wouldn't that also be true
   nothing, and which Ockham's razor would           of this hypothetical
   clean shave off. Your problems would be           inevitable destination of
   greatly simplified, if, instead of saying         inquiry?
   that you want to know the 'Truth', you
   were simply to say that you want to attain
   a state of belief unassailable by doubt.'
   (1905 [1998: 336])
                                                    (Bit of a Peirce
                                                    fanboy, are we?)
"For Peirce, a true belief is one that is
indefeasible and unassailable-- and
indefeasible and unassailable for all the
right reasons: namely, because it will stand
up to all further inquiry and investigation."          But you can't know that
                                                       you're really at that
                                                       stage.   So...
  "'if we were to reach a stage where we could
  no longer improve upon a belief, there is
  no point in withholding the title
  "true" from it.' (Misak 2000: 101)"




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