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                                          October 12, 2007

One more time, the "work inside the
system/work outside the system" debate:


"Defending the Earth (1991)
A Dialogue Between Murray             RADICAL_FREEZE
Bookchin & Dave Foreman:

Linda Davidoff, p. 64

"But we live in an enormously stable
society, one that changes slowly and
reluctantly.  I don't see a revolution
around the corner, eco-anarchist or
otherwise.  So, I think we better get
good at old-fashioned reformism.  That's
what makes a real difference in the here
and now."

  She uses the example of opposing
  Vietnam by supporting a less
  destructive presidential candidate
  that wasn't quite willing to
  "bomb them back to the stone age".

  A more recent example of hers (p. 65):
  local activists opposing the "Westway"
  proposal (Hudson landfill on the upper
  west side).

  "here is an example of people
  intelligently using the institutional
  apparatus of society to stop a bad
  thing from happening -- the filling-in
  of the Hudson River."

  "... this is a stable society
  that moves slowly and that
  we can change it if we're very,
  very careful to work out
  effective, realistic strategies
  that have some chance of success
  rather than chasing after utopian
  dreams."


To Foreman's credit the first thing he says
is that it's okay for people to work in multiple ways:


"Like everything else, I think that we
have to defend the Earth in a lot of         Note phrase:
different ways.  I am not telling            'defend the Earth':
people to do only one thing, to use          he regards
only one tactic or approach.  In one         working toward
sense, I don't care how people choose        human survival
to defend the Earth -- whether they          as tacky, merely
write letters to the editor, recycle         selfish behavior.
newspapers, canvass for an
environmental candidate, blockade                 Everyone needs
nuclear power plants with a few                   something bigger
thousand other people, or spike trees             than themselves
and sabotage bulldozers alone in wild             to believe in (?).
areas."    p. 66
                                                     And I see Michael
                                                     McClure pushes
                                                     wholism, e.g. in
                                                     his "Scratching
                                                     the Beat Surface".



"The American political system is very
effective at co-opting and moderating
dissidents by giving them attention and
then encouraging them to be
"reasonable" so their ideas will be
taken "more seriously."  Appearing on
the evening news, testifying before
congressional hearings, or getting a
job with some government agency are
just some of the methods used by the
establishment to entice one to share
key assumptions of the dominant
worldview and to enter the negotiating
room to compromise with madmen who are
destroying everything pure and
beautiful.  Take a look at much of the
mainstream conservation movement today.
The political vision of most of these
reformers includes, at a minimum, a
global population of ten to twelve                 How many humans
billion human beings, nation-states,               can dance on the
multinational corporations, the private            head of a planet?
automobile, and people in business
suits on every continent.  Such a                       Are nations and
limited vision is not going to spark or                 multi-nats both
lead a movement for the creation of a                   banned from Foreman's
wilderness-loving and egalitarian                       vision of the future?
society."     p. 71
                                                             PRIME_DIRECTIVE
"Indeed such a limited vision has
little or no future.  Modern society is
a driverless hot rod without brakes
going 90 miles an hour down a dead-end
alley with a brick wall at the end.  We
do not live in a stable society.  We're
in the most volatile society that has            Yet, I agree that
ever existed on this planet."  p. 71             private cars have
                                                 largely been an evil
                                                 force -- though my
                                                 reasoning tends to
                                                 be a little
                                                 different from the
                                                 usual environmental
                                                 line, and I hold out
                                                 no hopes of erasing
                                                 cars from the world
                                                 altogether.


"In many ways, Earth First! represents
a fundamentalist revival within the
wilderness/wildlife preservation
movement, a return to basics               Another way of looking at it
and a reaction against reformist           is that radicalism appeals
co-optation and compromise."   p. 72       to the romantic desire of kids
                                           to just kick-it all down and
                                           start over.

                                              Heavy metal environmentalism.

                                                   REBEL_YELL



          I wonder if Dave Forman is still as fond
          of the "outside the system" side of this
          debate now.

          Two decades hence, have the
          "radicals" done any better
          than the "moderates"?

          The fact that moderation is too slow
          for your taste does not prove that
          extremism will work any faster.




          Moderates are perhaps too easily co-opted,
          but then radicals aren't hard to neutralize
          either, are they?  A couple of provocateurs
          later, and they're all in court, if not in
          jail.

                                And that was back
                                before the T word          TERRORISM
                                could be trumped up
                                to slap anyone down.







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