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                                                     October  30, 2021
                                                     November 18, 2021

                                                        BITWASTES

About "Bitwise: A Life in Code" (2018) by David Auerbach


Page 75 of this book strikes me as a perfectly crazy piece
of exposition, it leaves my head spinning (not that that's
an unusual condition):

    "Yet whatever truth may be we can safely conclude
    that in order to interact well with the world,
    computers must be able to distinguish between
    true and false in the same way as humans do."

You mean, not at all?

Anyway, why on earth would you expect a computer
to be able to grasp truth in the same way a human
would?  And are you sure you *want* that?

    "The inadequacies of logicians' attempts to
    collapse the difference between a logical truth
    and a worldly truth have been made all too clear
    by the computing age."

Okay, so the point is that strictly speaking logical
conclusions can be expected only to be consistent with
the given assumptions, the truth of the conclusions
rest on the truth of the assumptions.  Is that all?

This is looking like a dressed-up version of
"its hard to know what's true".


    "Mathematician and phenomenologist
    Gian-Carlo Rota put this bluntly:

       'Mathematicians are therefore mystified
       by the spectacle of philosophers
       pretending to re-inject philosophical
       sense into the language of mathematical
       logic... The fake philosophical
       terminology of mathematical logic has
       misled philosophers into believing that
       matehmatical logic deals with the truth
       in the philosophical sense.  But this is
       a mistake.  Mathematical logic deals not
       with the truth but only with the game of   Maybe I'm not up on the
       truth.  The snobbish symbol-dropping       latest philosophical
       found nowadays in philosophical papers     journals...  I'd like to
       raises eyebrows among mathematicians,      see some names named.
       like someone paying his grocery bill
       with Monopoly money.'                         It's a problem with
                                                     academic literature in
    "Rota here echoes Plato, who was one of the      general, I would say, using
    first to find that truth is a *practical*        an injection of mathematics
    matter, a matter of action rather than of        to impress without
    pure theoretical abstraction."                   necessarily increasing our
                                                     understanding of anything.
       And I'm not the greatest expert on Plato,
       either, but I find these remarks very
       puzzling.

       Did the Sophists not have a "practical"
       understanding of truth?  You could argue
       they were the original pragmatists.

       Plato is famous for a kind of
       idealism, he speculated about an        The practical
       unknowable True Reality of which we     applications of
       only can perceive the barest hints.     Plato seem a bit
                                               illusive to me.

                                                   Plato is, however, a
                                                   good source to learn
                                                   how hard it is to nail
                                                   down a fundamental
                                                   understanding of anything.




        Bertrand Russell saw Plato as tremendously
        influenced by Pythagoras-- and Russell
        describes his own intellectual progress as a
        movement away this groping toward a simple,
        perfect understanding of everything.

                                                        PYTHAGOREAN_RETREAT


  "In Paul Friedlander's summary, 'Truth, in Plato's
  system, is always both: reality of being and
  correctness of apprehension and assertion.'"

     I'm tempted to chide Auerbach for relying
     on someone's interpretation of Plato here...   Still: isn't there a
     But arguably that would be a cheapshot of      quotable quote from Plato
     an unusual degree of hypocrisy from someone    establishing his notion of
     like me, who often works with bits and         truth?  But then, Plato's
     pieces, quick skimming and indirect sources.   writings can be rather
                                                    slippery, it's not so easy
                                                    to pick out definite
     But okay, so truth is an understanding         pronouncements about
     of what exists, a correspondence between       anything from Plato.
     idea and object.  That's a common enough
     approach, and certainly a respectable          Friedlander's take may just
     place to begin: it has the virtue of           be yet another opinionated
     intuitive appeal.                              interpretation of Plato.

     But what does that have to do with
     that babble about the computer age,
     and computers needing the ability to     Okay:
     grasp this kind of truth?
                                              The robot cars may hit
                                              bicycles because of
                                              quirks of the settings
                                              of the huge number of
                                              adjustable weightings
                                              in those "neural nets".

                                              I suppose fixing the behavior of
                                              the cars could be called
                                              "improving their understanding",
                                              making them perceive the world
                                              more like human beings do.

    Here Auerbach has a footnote:

      "Or in William James words, 'Truth *happens*
       to an idea.  It *becomes* true, is *made* true
       by events.'"

          That's got a nice ring to it, but once
          again, *what is Auerbach really getting at*?

          Is it critically important to distinguish
          between a notion being true because it
          corresponds to reality, or *becoming* true
          when it's shown to correspond to reality?


    "The troublesome gap is not between logic and
    language, but between logic and reality. Symbols
    and proofs cannot close that gap on their own."

       Well yeah.  And the weatherunderground just
       repackages what the national weather service
       is saying, because weatherunderground doesn't
       actually have any sensing devices of it's own.

       Is purpleair the breakthrough that Auerbach
       was waiting for?  A site that reports Truth
       because they have gadgets sending them information?


               Maybe Auerbach would like to see an AI
               that evaluates information based on the      That sounds like a
               respectability of it's sources-- the         difficult trick,
               way we wish human beings would, though       but perhaps not a
               they rarely do-- so that when it gives       complete
               you some news you also get a sense of        impossibility.
               how trustworthy the information is?





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