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                                             April   21, 2014
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A comment on a Rebecca Solnit piece:

  http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n04/rebecca-solnit/diary

Christian Nicholson, San Francisco wrote:

   "First, neither San Francisco nor New York figures on
   a list of the world's fifty most densely populated
   cities, which is the only true benchmark."

 The really dense cities have been around for over a millenia,
 and grew under vastly different circumstances.  San Francisco
 and New York are new kids, in comparison.

 Comparing their density to other places in the United States
 seems to me like it might be a true enough benchmark for some
 circumstances.  In particular-- you may have heard me say this
 before-- pointing the finger at NY and SF and not at the
 surrounding low density regions in the same part of the country
 that they're in, seems like an odd blindspot.

    "Second, New York has added new housing units at a
    much slower rate per capita than US cities such as
    Jacksonville, Houston and Atlanta: it is hardly in
    the midst of a housing boom."

 But how many housing units are being added in Brooklyn
 and Queens as compared to Nassau County?  Why is there
 some magical change in our expectations at that border?

    "Third, San Francisco developers are actively building
    only 4900 new units, an order of magnitude less than
    Solnit claims. The remainder of her 48,000 units may
    be approved, but most are unlikely to be developed for
    many years because of the sclerotic regulatory process."

 In other words, the commentator has hand-waved away a reality
 in favor of his expections.


    "Anyone who has visited San Francisco knows that
    outside a few neighbourhoods lining Market-- the
    Financial District, the Tenderloin and northern SoMa--
    the city is about three storeys tall.  Paris, the city
    I left to come here, is seven storeys high almost
    across the board."

  Ah, we'll always have Paris.  In these dicussions.

  (You have to wonder about these biographical
  interjections in anonymous internet
  discussions.  We have no way of knowing if
  this guy is from San Francisco and Paris,          It's a well known
  there may not be any reason we should care,        technique of on-line
  but he gets to claim Local Knowledge and           shills to pad out their
  disputing the point would make you seem like a     remarks with irrelvant
  rude jerk-- not that that ever stops me.)          biographical remarks.
                                                     "On a recent trip to
                                                     the city, I stopped by
                                                     here with my wife, and
                                                     we both thought the
                                                     food was wonderful."

      "Major Asian cities are much taller."

  Yes, there are gigantic hives of modern apartment
  buildings in massive complexes throughout asian
  cities.  They look perfectly awful to me, and with
  luck I'll never have to live in a place like that:
  You don't have to be a horrible nimby to wonder if
  this style construction is the best modern
  civilization can manage.

      "San Francisco could double in height without
      greatly hurting its open space or aesthetics."

  Right, let's rip down all those Victorians and
  replace them with faux Victorians of double the
  size.   No one will notice the difference.


      "The scarcity of shelter in San Francisco
      is artificially imposed, the result of a
      decades-long resistance in many parts of
      the city to any kind of development."

  You can see how that could be.  But there are places
  with *even stronger* barriers to development than
  San Francisco, and some of them are right next door.

  I think the main reason people like this commentator
  complain about San Francisco's building restrictions
  has to do with the appeal of the *idea* of San
  Franciso, the attraction that the *name* has for many
  people.

  If you think San Francisco is such a cool place
  compared to Daly City, shouldn't you be arguing
  that Daly City should become more like San
  Francisco?  Why are you suggesting San Francisco
  needs to be more like Tokyo?


      "That resistance comes from several quarters. A
      recent high-rise on the waterfront was voted down
      by a coalition of local wealth and the political
      left, which is also leading the fight against         THE_COAST_LINE
      evictions."

  The fiends, refusing to let housing developers slap
  up whatever they like on the waterfront.  How are
  you supposed to sell new occupants on the view if
  you can't get in the way of someone else's view?


      "San Francisco's incumbent residents would
      prefer the postcard life of a low, sparsely
      populated city to the high-rises of an Asian      If you invoke esthetics
      megalopolis. Fine. But that means homeowners      at all in these
      are forcing the burden of adjustment onto         discussions, someone
      tenants. You can fight development or you can     will bring up this
      fight evictions, but you cannot logically         "postcard" sneer.
      fight both.

  No, you can *logically* fight both, but it
  would involve a determination to stop
  managing this resource via "market forces".

  You might, for example, have a
  city wide housing authority that
  controls both construction and        I guess those waiting lists
  prices, and manages a long            are okay for immigration
  waiting list on prospective           *into* the United States,
  immigrants.                           but if you're an American
                                        you deserve instant
  The city-run "affordable housing"     gratification by birthright.
  that exists is already run in
  manner something like this, as I
  understand it.

      "Like all American cities, San Francisco
      is for sale, and its real-estate market
      speaks through price movements. Rents in        The shout I hear is
      San Francisco are shouting at us to build       "we wish there were
      more now."                                      more real cities out
                                                      there, and less
  And what are we to make of the willingness          suburban sprawl".
  of tech workers from Silicon Valley to sit
  in busses for hours a day so they can work
  down there without being subjected to
  living there?  Does that shout loudly
  enough?

      "That's the only way we'll have enough
      space to go round."

  Strictly speaking, you mean *units*, not *space*.

  You could, for example, subdivide existing buildings into
  teeny-tiny capsule apartments and pack in way more people
  without putting up more buildings.


      "Rather than deal with the fundamental dynamic
      of supply and demand,"

  It's a peeve for another day, perhaps, but I'm getting
  really sick of hearing from people who think they know
  what the "fundamentals" are-- they all speak with a
  tone of perfect certainty, just as this developer shill--
  I mean *concerned citizen*-- does.


      "Solnit mounts a fairly predictable attack on
      tech workers, pushing a narrative in which two
      groups, so unlike in dignity, enter a fight to
      the death. To read her, one would think that       That sounds like a
      San Francisco's brave natives face a horde of      good sequel to
      villainous drones and gold diggers, who have       "Escape From New
      descended on a pristine city to pillage its        York": "Defense of
      neighbourhoods and hunt down its idealists."       San Francisco".

  Liberals arts folks do like to bitch about techies,
  yeah.  To someone with an arts background the             HIPSTER_GENTRY
  gentrification cycle is pretty annoying-- People
  move near the artists, and transform the character          KRUGMANS_TURF
  of the neigborhood to the point where the artists
  can't live there any more.

  Instead of just shrugging and saying "free market!", it
  might be worth trying to address this issue directly:
  cities work best with a diverse range of people who can
  live near each other, letting the market control prices
  tends to create monocultures... so what else might we do?


      "This is not the first time she has tarred
      the industry.

  You have to wonder about someone who follows someone
  they dislike so closely.

      "In January, she called the tech business a
      monoculture (every group looks like a
      monoculture to outsiders)."

  *I'm* a tech worker, and I have no interest in living
  in a monoculture of tech workers.

  And we're talking about *places* not *groups*--
  the goal, I submit, is a dynamic place with a large
  range of different kinds of people living and
  working there...

     "But if she made the morning commute to
      Embarcadero, she'd see a lot of Indian and
      Chinese and Eastern European faces there. In
      San Francisco's start-up hostels, you hear half
      a dozen languages spoken every day."

  Despite some range of ethnic backgrounds, it's still a
  single-industry group with similar educational
  backgrounds-- you can talk about a "monoculture"
  without claiming everyone is a clone of Zuckerberg.
                                                           (Speaking of
                                                            movie plots...)

      "In a previous essay, Solnit compared tech
      workers to insects, aliens, Prussian
      invaders and German tourists in the space of
      a few paragraphs (LRB, 7 February 2013).
      The implications are clear."

  Actually, the implications aren't that clear to
  me-- is he suggesting Solnit is proposing a
  Final Solution for the Tech industry?



      "Applied to any other group, these
      attempts to dehumanise would have
      invited howls of indignation."

  Okay, fair enough.  (Except you know,
  there's a difference between punching up
  and punching down...)


      "This is not a battle between the
      natives and an invading species; it's
      a negotiation between two different
      invading species over shelter and
      tenants' rights, stasis and change."

  A long-standing population might very well regard
  themselves as having a stronger claim in the discussion
  than a recent arrival-- if there's some question about
  what kind of people you want to attract, that's
  necessarily going to be a discussed by the people who
  are already there.

  And as should be obvious, there's a difference
  between gradual changes and a sudden influx of a
  population...


      "Solnit's parents moved to the
      Bay Area in the 1960s when she
      was a girl. She grew up in
      Novato."

   And I wonder who would carefully keep track of
   where a writer you dislike is from-- it may be
   useful if you want to make cheapshots, but it
   actually says next to nothing about whether
   Solnit's ideas are worth considering.

   Checking against wikipedia, I see Solnit moved
   to Novato in 1966 when she was five years old,
   a place 30 miles north of San Francisco.

   It doesn't actually seem to me that it is
   obviously hypocritical for Solnit to complain
   about a recent wave of immigrants suddenly
   transforming the character of the city.

   Maybe this line would make more sense to me
   if I was stuck on the idea that markets are
   the sole way of managing living space, but
   that's the point the author is supposed to be
   trying to establish.




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